Feminism, Sexism and Other Misunderstood Things

[Sara NoH]

I am a feminist.
I am heterosexual.
I occasionally wear dresses.
I usually shave my legs and underarms, unless I'm in a hurry.
I believe in equality for all.
I believe every person has basic rights.
I don't believe a fetus is a person. I believe it's a potential person which should be more valued than say, a dog; but less valued than an existing person.
I don't believe anyone is superior to anyone else.
I don't believe all____ are inherently_____. People are different, there are usually exceptions.

At it's core, I think feminism is about equality. It's not about superiority, it's not about man-hating. What do you think feminism is about? What do you think makes a feminist? Why are you or aren't you a feminist?

[Kenny]

Do feminists also want women to be half of all unsheltered homeless, rather than the 1% they currently are?  Do feminists look at World Wars I and II and the tens of millions of dead male soldiers and go "Dammit.  We wish half of all these casualties were female."?  Do feminists wish that fewer divorced mothers got sole custody of their children?

Obviously these are all rhetorical questions as feminism is an inherently hypocritical movement and the truthful answer to all of the questions is "no".

[Brianna Marie]

I don't see your point. Those rhetorical questions are ridiculous. While you shouldn't group people together and tell me what they think, I'll agree that women probably aren't all choked up that they didn't die in the war, but then again I'm pretty sure those men weren't too cracked up about it either. Even so, perhaps some women were still disappointed they didn't get the opportunity to fight. (But not likely seeing as what era it was then). But the women did want to work, they did want to contribute, they did want to get their hands dirty and do something other than lounge around the house cooking and cleaning and acting in their "appropriate sphere". And they did, and then it was taken away from them, and society was trying to force them back down into their "appropriate sphere". 

Your questions are ridiculous because we (all of us, as a society, hopefully) want to raise everyone up so there is no inequality, is no poverty, is no racism, sexism, ageism, war, etc. Hopefully we are all trying to work towards a Utopia for all of us. So no, feminists don't want women to be half of unsheltered homeless, they would want no men, no children, and no women to be homeless. 

[Kenny]

The point I'm making is that feminism is, for the most part, hypocritical.  Women claim to want equality but in reality they want all the privileges of being a man while at the same time only accepting the bare minimum of the responsibilities that go along with those privileges.  

[Brianna Marie]

Who the hell says that? Where's your proof? Show me. 

[Kenny]

My proof is that you never see feminists trying to rectify these numbers into an even 50/50 split 

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/the-feminist-fantasy-of-male-p...

[Brianna Marie]

Did you just send me to a blog? What kind of rubbish site was that? What I noticed was that a lot of those "disadvantages" were deaths that has nothing to do with anything. Before I believe anything you say, or anything whats-his-face-said, I'm going to need an unbiased view, and a credible source with verifiable numbers. Not some blog dedicated to anti-feminism. How does that prove anything? Honestly.

[Kenny]

Every single one of those data points links to an unbiased source.

[Brianna Marie]

But the way they have configured the article is not unbiased. You are not showing both sides of the story.

And again, a lot of those things were things that people can't really control. Like how long women live? What, are they going to kill themselves in order to rectify that "disadvantage" to make sure that men live longer than they do?

[David N]

 Women claim to want equality but in reality

If they are correctly representative of Feminism, then yes, they do.

they want all the privileges of being a man

Correct.

while at the same time only accepting the bare minimum of the responsibilities that go along with those privileges.

This is where I lose you. What do you mean?

[David N]

Women who want women to be able to join the military of their own free will do not want women to die in the military. Women who want women to be able to compete with men in the jobs market do not want more unemployed women. Your claims are fallacial. Yes, these are consequences of the actions, just as women making "stupid" decisions voting is a consequence of women having the right to vote. That does not mean the original premise (women having the right to vote, work, fight, etc.) is flawed. There is nothing wrong with gender equality. I find what you are insinuating quite disturbing.

[Übereil]

Do feminists also want women to be half of all unsheltered homeless, rather than the 1% they currently are?

I'm sure they'd rather eliminate homlelessness, but if that's not possible, then yes, they do, all things considered. Apart from the difference feminists, but most feminists don't consider difference feminists to be real feminists anyway.

Do feminists look at World Wars I and II and the tens of millions of dead male soldiers and go "Dammit. We wish half of all these casualties were female."?

I'm sure they'd rather those wars wouldn't have happened. But if pepole have to die in wars I'm sure they'd rather men and women took equal responsibility for this. Once again, apart from difference feminists.

Do feminists wish that fewer divorced mothers got sole custody of their children?

Most feminists wants men to start taking as much responsibility for child care as women. A consequence of that will be that more men gets sole custody of their children, since women getting sole custody stems from the idea that women are interently better than men at child raising, which feminists wants gone.

Obviously these are all rhetorical questions as feminism is an inherently hypocritical movement and the truthful answer to all of the questions is "no".

Which of the feminist movements are you speaking of? The radical feminist movement or marxist feminist movement? Or maybe the liberal feminist movement or the anarcho feminist movement? Or what about the queer feminist movement or postmodern feminist movement? Or maybe even the difference feminist movement?

I'm going to guess you don't even know what these terms mean without looking them up, and that you've heard maybe two or three of them before. And yet you talk of the feminist movement as if you know what it is and what it wants.

[Brianna Marie]

Feminism isn't just constrained to men and women anymore. A lot of people have expanded the term to equality for all- men, women, white, black, gay, straight, transgendered, etc.