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I stand against all the hate and bigotry that ignorant Christians promote in the name of loving their God.
That said, I am about at my wit's end with everyone saying that it is an absolute fact that Christianity opposes homosexuality.
All of the passages used to promote this theory can be refuted. The Bible has been translated countless times by the hopelessly corrupt in order to manipulate the population and distort the original messages for their own purposes.
You are using your religion as an excuse to ostracize a group of people who are just as legitimately people as you are. Very Christ-like of you.

Prove me wrong.
Back me up.
Discuss.

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All the people saying "I have nothing against gay people but I think the lifestyle they choose is sinful" seem to be confused as to why the rest of us are offended by this, after all you're being perfectly polite.

Well, imagine that someone said to you "You know, your parents are really nice and everything but I think that it's morally wrong for them to be in a relationship" When you tried to find out why, they say "It's just my opinion based on my religion", you would probably be annoyed by this.

 

Yes, but now look at it from God's perspective. He gives people sex, a perfect wonderful thing, and then people twist it and do things with it that are wrong. This isn't the same as saying "its not natural". It's saying "It is not how God wants us to be". If God is the one with all the knowledge and made us pure originally and then we messed it up, he knows what is and is not how he intended us to be and what is best for us.   

 

Now to actually address some of your points (I'll admit I haven't read the whole thread), what are you basing your view of homosexuality as a sin on? The Bible? I think we can all agree that the Bible is a contradictory text

 

I've still yet to see a legitimate example of this. A scirbal error here and there on matters of geneology, but most of these are cleared up with more contempoary documents.  

 

I have previously seen Vertigo_One state that the New Testament rescinded many of the Old Testament Rules but kept the 'moral ones' (apologies for not actually being able to quote exactly, Vertigo_One is a prolific debater and it would have taken quite some time to locate the right message) I have never heard this argument elsewhere and can't really comment on it

 

The best way to look at it is that if it comes in both new and old testements, and if Jesus talks about it. Jesus refers in his preaching to condem sexual immorality, which is a refernce to, amoungst other things, homosexuality.

 

http://www.leaderu.com/theology/biblehomosex_overview.html

 

This is a very good overview of the subject.

1. Even taking it from a normal perspective, I consider your first paragraph wrong. God has no right to complain about what we choose to do with our free will if it isn't hurting anybody. Nobody suffers from consensual gay sex--hence, God does not have the right to complain. Tell me, what does God want from us?

 

2. All the prophecies that Jesus fullfills that do not, in fact, relate to the Messiah. Explain those away.

 

3. How do you know he was talking about homosexuality? Sexual immorality was /much/ different in Roman society than what you're picturing it as.

Even taking it from a normal perspective, I consider your first paragraph wrong. God has no right to complain about what we choose to do with our free will if it isn't hurting anybody. Nobody suffers from consensual gay sex--hence, God does not have the right to complain. Tell me, what does God want from us?

 

If it is moving us away from the perfect way we were meant to exist in, we are suffering. God has perfect plans for us.  

 

All the prophecies that Jesus fullfills that do not, in fact, relate to the Messiah. Explain those away.

 

Read here

 

http://christianthinktank.com/qjesus1.html

 

http://christianthinktank.com/falsechrist.html

 

How do you know he was talking about homosexuality? Sexual immorality was /much/ different in Roman society than what you're picturing it as.

 

Because he's not a member of Roman society, and he's not talking from a roman perspective. He was refering to the OT, which makes a very clear list of what sexual immoraltiy consists of.

Leaderu.com are filled with lies, bullshit written hatred filled religious lowlife. This site is not to be trust as it is all bullshit and nothing but bullshit.
How about, rather than accusing the source, you show WHY it's wrong, rather than the fact that it is, just because it is that source.
I read the site, actually see some christian-jerks quoted from it. It is bullshit, lies and bigotry. Nothing good would come out of this bullshit site.
Proof, bitte?

It is bullshit, lies and bigotry

 

All without the slightest hint of irony!

I am an outspoken advocate of individuality and an ardent believer that love transcends all boundaries. Not only do I believe that god does not hate homosexuals, but I commend them for being themselves. People get so fixated on the physical part of being gay, and forget that that's not what it's all about.
What a lovely way of putting it. Props!

Christian God does hate homosexuals. If he didn't why he wants the to be killed? Why God doesn't stop people from hating homosexuals?

Cristian God is not a nice God. That God hates a lot of things, humans are pretty much slaves to God, obey or go to Hell.

Anyone saying God loves homosexuals is a lier.

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."  (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

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