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Many cultures have seen prostitution as a necessary and legitimate service. And some people make the argument that all the ills faced by today's prostitutes are a result of the social outcast status they currently have. What do you think? Please remain respectful and on topic.

* To clarify, I did mean "prostitutes" as those who willingly choose to perform sexual acts for money. I did not intend this discussion to debate on the morality of sexual slavery, child prostitution, or prostitution by the mentally ill.*

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This makes no sense. I give you the dictionary definition of slave:

1. a person legally owned by another and having no freedom of action or right to property
2. a person who is forced to work for another against his will
Why should capitalism be allowed to be so immoral?
There is a thing called market failure- which is when the free market, operating as a free market, causes undesirable things to happen. That is the basis on which walmart is prevented from selling black tar heroin to children...or anyone for that matter. I would argue that the market putting a price of someone's body is an example of market failure also- therefore we can have capitalism in which prostitution is illegal...and if it's socialism to ban it, well then maybe I should rethink my position on socialism

Hypothetical situation: I wish to sell myself as a sexual partner to anyone who wishes to pay. What gives you the right to prevent me from doing so?

me personally, nothing. Society however has a duty to protect human dignity by not allowing the body to become a commodity. Certain behaviours are prevented not because they necessarily cause damage to a 'victim' but because they are damaging to society as a whole.

Society however has a duty to protect human dignity

 

No it doesn't.  Society has a duty to protect human life and well-being and protect individual ownership of property.  It's not society's job to define and protect dignity.

"Society has a duty to protect human life and well-being..."

That right there is how you can justify banning prostitution. As long as you can show why prostitution is harmful, of course.
Researchers have found websites where clients have "Reviewed" prostitutes, and they talk on there about them. Several of the reviews are pretty disgusting, but a number of them talk exceptionally dismissively about how they were angry when the prostitute complained that what was being done was hurting them "she said that doing X hurt. Hurt? Why did she tell me that? What do I care" etc. These are the kind of things that mean prostitution is banned.

By your logic everybody is a commodity, your employers don't employ you because they like you they employ you so you can do things for them, kind of like how prostitutes are employed to do things for people. If it was societies job to protect dignity then nobody would work for anyone else ever because working for someone else will always be at least a little degrading.

 

If anybody is employed solely because of their bodies it's models and bad actors and actresses because they do a lot less than a prostitute does. Blowing someone takes a lot more skill than being naturally pretty, having someone position you in front of a camera and getting airbrushed. Getting paid millions to say corny lines poorly is also a lot less difficult. 

 

Oh not to mention boy bands, now that there's auto-tune they don't even have to learn how to sing. 

 

Anyways, you forgot to mention how it's damaging to society as a whole, I'm interested in hearing about this. 

Surely you can see that there is a fundamental difference between having a normal job and being paid for that and HAVING SEX FOR MONEY. When you get a job you are willingly agreeing to perform tasks, but you are not agreeing to give someone control of your body for money. 

 

It is damaging to society as a whole because society should value human dignity and allowing prostitution devalues that because it means people become less like people and more like toys or meat.

Surely you can see that there is a fundamental difference between having a normal job and being paid for that and HAVING SEX FOR MONEY.

 

No, there isn't.  On Tuesday morning my employer will pay me to use my body to perform menial labor for a few hours.  The same thing can be said of prostitutes.  There is no fundamental difference between using one's body to cut hair and using one's body to give another sexual gratification.

 

When you get a job you are willingly agreeing to perform tasks, but you are not agreeing to give someone control of your body for money.

 

Neither are prostitutes.  They're having sex for money, they aren't giving up control of their bodies any more than anyone having sex with another for free.

 

It is damaging to society as a whole because society should value human dignity and allowing prostitution devalues that because it means people become less like people and more like toys or meat.

 

While I have nothing against society valuing dignity until it does so through unjust legislation.  I also disagree that prostitution will lead to people becoming devalued, so you may want to post some actual proof of this little hypothesis of yours.  Prostitution has been around as long as people have and is legal in several developed countries; if your hypothesis is correct then you'll have no trouble at all proving it true.

Surely you can see that there is a fundamental difference between having a normal job and being paid for that and HAVING SEX FOR MONEY.

 

Getting paid to have sex isn't different then getting paid to work in something like the coal mines, actually working in coal mines is far more dangerous so in some ways thats way more degrading then having sex. In fact, there are plenty of jobs that are way more dangerous or degrading then getting paid to have sex. Dressing up in costume at an amusement park and running around in the heat sweating your ass off while bending over backwards to amuse children probably isn't a job that you're morally against, nor is joining a professional sports team even though that's really dangerous. 

 

When you get a job you are willingly agreeing to perform tasks, but you are not agreeing to give someone control of your body for money.

 

So what is my body doing when it's working? Is it doing whatever it wants? Is it in the corner playing video games or is it doing whatever my boss tells me to do? My boss has complete control of my body while I'm working, if my body is told to clean something it cleans, if it's told to man the register it mans the register. 

 

It is damaging to society as a whole because society should value human dignity and allowing prostitution devalues that because it means people become less like people and more like toys or meat.

 

Or it turns your body into a tool, a means to an end, which is what any job will do unless you're being paid to do whatever you want which isn't going to happen. Seriously, there is no difference between having your body get paid to pleasure someone or to clean the counter. At least if you're a prostitute you're encouraged to get laid while on the job, not many people can say they have that benefit. 

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