I am kind of on the fence about this. What do you think?
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Permalink Reply by Vertigo_One [Ops Mod] on May 7, 2012 at 10:10am Vertigo it sounds like the solution would be to make it legal everywhere. It isn't the same thing. Human trafficking and selling sex aren't the same thing.
No, but SEX TRAFFICKING brings them together. IE the trafficking of women to sell the for sex.
If in the countries where it is legal they strictly enforced laws about human trafficking it would help.
You still don't get it. They CAN'T enforce it because prostitution is legal.
Permalink Reply by Latch33570 on May 7, 2012 at 10:19am They can enforce laws for human trafficking. Why would prostitution being legal stop you from enforceing immigration laws?
Permalink Reply by Vertigo_One [Ops Mod] on May 7, 2012 at 12:33pm Because it makes it harder for them to investigate where the legal brothols got their workers from. After all, their legal.
Permalink Reply by Latch33570 on May 7, 2012 at 1:29pm I don't buy that. You made the statement. Back it up. How does it make it harder to investigate brothel workers? Also, if it were legal all over there would be no need to transplant em.
Permalink Reply by Vertigo_One [Ops Mod] on May 8, 2012 at 3:12am Well funny, that's what's happening. Countries with legal prostitution are having more problems with sex trafficking.
"Where prostitution is tolerated, there is a greater demand for human trafficking victims and nearly always an increase in the number of women and children trafficked into commercial sex slavery. Few women seek out or choose to be in prostitution, and most are desperate to leave it. A 2003 scientific study in the Journal of Trauma Practice found that 89 percent of women in prostitution want to escape prostitution but had no other options for survival."
http://prostitution.procon.org/sourcefiles/USStateHumanTraffickingR...
Although there was a belief that legalization would make possible control of the sex industry, the illegal industry is now 'out of control'. Police in Victoria [Australia] estimate that there are 400 illegal brothels as against 100 legal ones. Trafficking in women and children from other countries has increased significantly. The legalization of prostitution in some parts of Australia has thus resulted in a net growth of the industry. One of the results has been the trafficking in women and children to 'supply' legal and illegal brothels. The 'sex entrepreneurs' have difficulty recruiting women locally to supply an expanding industry, and women from trafficking are more vulnerable and more profitable - Richard Poulin PHD
Permalink Reply by CD on May 8, 2012 at 4:19am Legal is a misnoma - no brothels are legal in Australia, only some are partially decriminalised - like abortion clinics.
If it was legal to operate a brothel, it would be registered, the workers would have the right to form an incorporated trade union recognised by the IRC*, and regulation would provide a limited (but corrupt) outlet for recourse.
It wouldn't prevent human trafficking because whether or not prostitution is legal, human trafficking occurs. The schmozzle works on taking advantage of innocent people. The issue is connected to shitty migration laws in Australia as well. If we had a more open policy on migration, and less exploitative visas, there would be less avenues for people smuggling more generally. That includes in dingys from Malaysia, as well as on planes into 'unregulated' brothels. Add more worker's rights, and I can guarantee you that if there was a problem SOMEONE would be calling up the union to get it sorted out. Whether the IRC or the cops would actually fix it is another matter.
*There is the Scarlett Alliance but I'm yet to hear of a case recognised in the IRC, correct me if I'm wrong, it's not even a member of the ACTU. But it does look out for sex workers in Australia.
Correction: prostitution, like marijuana and fireworks, are legal in the A.C.T.
Permalink Reply by Khadija on May 8, 2012 at 4:38am Well, to be honest, I would agree to Vertigo One:
An individual selling his/her body is legal. Organising it as an industry (Brothels, advertisements etc) should be illegal.
When a woman (or a man, gigolo's are sort of the same thing) wants to make it their profession, I find that they are just allowed to do it. It is her own choice right? Besides, we all know that there are people out there raping innocent people. But we also know that there are people who go to a prostitue. When these people don't have the opportunity to go to prostitues, they will get what they need in the wrong way: probably rape. So when you ask me if prostitution should be legal, I'd say yes.
Permalink Reply by CD on May 10, 2012 at 5:48am I'm not sure than having access to a prostitute would reduce rape. Because prostitutes get raped too, and perhaps by people who would have raped someone else anyway but figured that 'they're just a hooker'. So legalising prostitution may have the benefit of legal recognition that raping anyone is wrong.
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