Religion

[Willy]

This is a place for an intellectual and non-hateful debate over all things religious between those with an open mind. If you are not willing to think about any arguments posted here, leave right now. If you are just going to spam religious people and/or atheists with hate comments, leave right now. This should also have nothing to do with religion being bad or good for the world.

 

I personally am atheist, I have found no evidence for any God's existence. The Bible and other holy books have been translated and subjected to change many times (this is an undebatable fact). And science proves any literal interpretations worthless and untrustworthy. 

[Contradiction]

It's hard to have a debate without a topic more specific than "religion."

[Willy]

you know, is there a true religion, if so which one, stuff like that

[Eystein,]

My open mind is closed and firmly locked when it comes to religion =P Sorry...

[Ellen Foley]

Well i study Wicca which is fun and i personally find the Bible confusing and not my "cup of tea"

[Willy]

well that sucks. I wish some religious people would respond so we could actually get a debate going though.

[Eystein,]

That's not fair. V1 is quite impressive to put up with our constant mockery/refusal of him. And he's probably placed more intellect into his religion than most people here have. More than me, that's for sure, and probably more than what should be reckomendable. I detest his views, but they are atleast legitimate and honest from his point of view.

[Vertigo_One [Ops Mod]]

If you want, you can give me a point I seem to have not been able to respond to in the past, and I'll respond to it.

[Contradiction]

No, they just say it's unlikly and then say "but we can't be absolutely certian" to make their position immune from attack.

 

No, they fucking do not. You can be reasonably certain that your god exists, can you not? So why the hell can't atheists be reasonably certain that he doesn't?

 

Also, I'll copy/paste this response of mine since you seem to have ignored it.

In cohesion with Dan's analogy of an invisible, incorporeal dragon, saying "there probably isn't one because I have never seen, smelt, taste, heard, or felt it, and there's no proof of it otherwise" is a logical statement, and the only reason you'd disagree with that is because you know the analogy is being applied to your god.

 

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[Vertigo_One [Ops Mod]]

No, they fucking do not. You can be reasonably certain that your god exists, can you not? So why the hell can't atheists be reasonably certain that he doesn't?

 

Because they, unlike me, have absolutely no evidence. I have evidence, although you may not agree with it, but it does exist.  

 

In cohesion with Dan's analogy of an invisible, incorporeal dragon, saying "there probably isn't one because I have never seen, smelt, taste, heard, or felt it, and there's no proof of it otherwise" is a logical statement, and the only reason you'd disagree with that is because you know the analogy is being applied to your god.

 

Flaw. There is evidence for God's existance. Just because you disagree with said proof, doesn't make it innacurate to say it exists.

[Fake Crowley]

Um, in order for something to be, "proof," or, "evidence," I don't think it can be disputable...

 

Just by definition.

 

Sorry, just putting that out there. I'm probably wrong.

[Willy]

You're completely right. For instance you can't dispute the existence of the computer I'm typing this on because,although you can't see it, you can see the direct result that logically must come from the computer I'm typing this on. Unlike the Bible which was not written by God, it was written by his disciples, and logically the Universe could come from something else. Like the Big Bang

[Willy]

@Bethan Technically you're right, but basic logic and critical thinking will tell you that my computer does exist. Also even if it was imaginary I could argue that therefore you are god and this world is some sort of sick game, but real relative to me. And as Einstien proved, relativity is all that matters.