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I was raised Christian, and both of my parents are nurses who, at one time or another have had to deal with girls who had been raped and didn't want a child, so this subject is kind of controversial for me.

On one hand I have been taught my whole life that abortion was wrong, and even that tiny bundle of cells at the very beginning of a pregnancy is a human, but I've met a lot of my parent's patients who had been raped.

Of course, there's always the option of going through the pregnancy/birthing process, and then putting the baby up for adoption, but what 16 or 17 year old girl who didn't have any say in the sex wants to be pregnant for 9 months while trying to go through highschool? I mean, I can just imagine the ridicule. Highschoolers can be harsh, and a re VERY good at coming up with false stories.

I was just wondering what everyone's views on it were. And please, no hate comments. Whether it be people hating on Christians, or Christians hating on someone who is okay with abortion. Especially you guys Christians. I feel very disappointed when someone who has been taught by God to respect EVERYONE'S opinion go and disrespect people who don't share the same views.

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I think women facing this have to make the most difficult decision of their life. Therefore I'm prochoice. I believe every woman has the right to make their own decision. There's no proof when life begins, you may believe it begins at conception, I may believe it begins around the second trimester. Therefore i don't think others have the right to judge, and particularly legislate, based on something that has no answer. 

 

I have a problem when people try to use religion as a justification for saying that abortion is wrong. I respect that you're christian, muslim, whatever. We're in a world of a lot of different religions, it's not right to claim that your belief is more right than mine. 

 

Honestly, if I fell pregnant right now I would have an abortion. I have no money, no home, student loans etc. That's no place to raise a child and I believe that life doesn't start until the fetus has a brain and some form of consciousness. Until then I just view it as something that has the potential for life, similar to an egg or a sperm. 

it's not right to claim that your belief is more right than mine.

That's a very naieve view. By nature of someone being one religion, most likly they will believe that their religion is more correct than someone elses. Now I see your point about jusitifcation for laws etc, but I just wanted to bring you up on your use of language there.
yeah, true, it was a poor choice of words, but I think you get what I was trying to say. You can believe in the Giant Spaghetti Monster for all I care, but don't go forcing those beliefs onto other people, particularly when it comes to laws.

Pro-choice. 

 

Beliefs of the doctors and nurses or even the hospital for that matter shouldn't come into the question. If the lassies use their free will which god has given them, then it shouldn't be questioned. 

I think abortion should be legal, but there should be some limits on it. I think that if the fetus is viable, abortion should not be allowed, but if a pregnant person doesn't want a baby in them anymore, they should be able to get it out- with induced labor and possibly a c-section. Unless the pregnant person (not all people who get pregnant identify as female, keep that in mind) will suffer more physically from childbirth than they would with an abortion, which later in the pregnancy is usually pretty risky, I don't think that a person should be allowed to abort a viable fetus. But then again, I also support full universal healthcare, which would mean that even the poorest people could afford to have prenatal care, a c-section, and care for the baby's health.

I do think that the adoption/foster system needs a HUGE revamp, that contraception needs to be more accessible and that people need to learn how to use it properly when they get it. 

Yeah. I hate it, though, when people try to abort themselves. If you WANT an abortion, you might as well go to the doctor about it, because you could very possibly do something wrong. My sister, also a nurse (so many nurses in my family!) had a patient once who was very sick and something kept infecting her no matter how sterile anything around her was. They went in  with surgery to try to find the problem, and they found the corpse of a baby in her uterus. She wouldn't have gotten so infected/sick if she had just gone an abortion clinic or something.

Not everyone can afford an abortion, even one provided by a place like Planned Parenthood, sadly, so they try something dangerous like drinking bleach or the infamous coat-hander method. I think that if abortion was a)legal and b)covered by insurance, there would be no reason for a person to do something incredibly dangerous like that. Some people who have unwanted pregnancies may suffer psychological damage from the actual pregnancy. It's not uncommon to hear of a person who will do anything to get that fetus out of them. They become obsessed with getting rid of the pregnancy. For most people, they can just drive a few miles to Planned Parenthood, fill out a form, pay 300 bucks and get an abortion. For some people, it's not that easy, and the things they have to do to get rid of the fetus are really scary. It's a shame that people have to resort to methods like that.

Of course I think that not just anyone should be able to do an abortion. Abortion is a medical procedure that should be done by a licensed medical professional. 

I feel very disappointed when someone who has been taught by God to respect EVERYONE'S opinion go and disrespect people who don't share the same views.

 

That depends what you mean by respect. Since the word "opinion" only appears three times in the Bible, and none in the context of respect, I'm curious what you mean. I respect the right of other people to have differing opinions, but that doesn't mean I won't disagree with them, nor will I consider them bad people for holding an opinion

I am pro-choice. I believe that the morality of the situation is entirely irrelevant. Why is it that we are up in arms over abortion because some believe their religious text forbids it, and yet you never hear people decry divorce? If you are a Christian and for abortion being illegal based solely on the Bible, then should you not also believe that divorce should be illegal?

Anyway, off my tangent, I think that the pro-life platform is spoken from a position of great arrogance. Often times, the women who get abortions are in complicated situations where even they themselves are unsure of what to do. For someone to stand up and say to her "I am a complete stranger to you, but I know what you should do and how to make it work better than you do" is arrogance.

For someone to stand up and say to her "I am a complete stranger to you, but I know what you should do and how to make it work better than you do" is arrogance.

 

^Yeah, that.

I'm pro-choice because I don't think that anyone should be forced into carrying out a pregnancy. It's their body, and it's an extremely personal situation over which nobody but the mother should presume to have control. If abortion is against your morals, don't have an abortion. It's simple.

If you are a Christian and for abortion being illegal based solely on the Bible, then should you not also believe that divorce should be illegal?

 

Check again. Divorce is allowed in the Bible on the grounds of adultury or abuse.

 

Anyway, off my tangent, I think that the pro-life platform is spoken from a position of great arrogance. Often times, the women who get abortions are in complicated situations where even they themselves are unsure of what to do. For someone to stand up and say to her "I am a complete stranger to you, but I know what you should do and how to make it work better than you do" is arrogance.

 

By the same token, an anti-theft platform is of some arrogence. We don't know what situation a burglar may be in. They may be desperate etc and need the money, but that doesn't disuade the morality of the situaton and the fact that their choice impacts someone else.

The fetus is not a person Verty, it cannot think, feel or move (if the abortion is taken early enough).

 

The fact is, it's up to the women, and to call them out and call them morally evil is a disgrace on 'none-judging' Christians.

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