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Started by Kelly Norton. Last reply by Jonathon Dean Nov 18.
I will never understand you Jonathan. I don't think this show will ever be up to your perception of standards.
Bronze OH MY GOSH I LOVED THE DOCUDRAMA! I sobbed for a full 20 minutes because of the end! If I ever get to time travel, rather in a TARDIS or not (though a TARDIS would be preferable) I would take Hartnell and show him how amazing the show has gotten. He deserves that and more. He believed in the show from the very beginning, and watching even an actor portray his health deterioration made me absolutely depressed.
@Jonathan Yeah, you're right and the sad thing is, it wouldn't be that hard to write a special that could have had all existing Doctors; IDW had a comic during the tennant days, were he suddenly found himself in what amounted to a Doctor Experience in space (but with no fans around) and he goes through it, looking at hi old suits and weapons from past enemies, telling Martha about them; in the end off course, this was a trap to probe some secret I forget out of his mind and martha was the badie of the week, trying to guide him to remember and tell him what he needed. How hard would something like that have been to accomplish? Hell what happened to the memory pit the doctor was in the last time we had seen him, that was another easy reason for a special that involved thing from the past 50 years of the shows. In both scenarios you can still have tennant around, as well all existing doctors with some easy explanation as to why they look older. If they want to go with The Moment, it could have easily shown him who he had been, as as who he became, thus giving a better reason as to why they all show up at the end.
These all out of the top of my head in a couple of minutes of thinking about it, I expect a proper tv writer as Moffat is supposed to be could have come up with something better; and sure some of the actors being dead makes things harder, but they have shown that they can get around that.
Still again you can't look at the special as the only thing done to celebrate the anniversary, you had several things happening, many of which celebrated the classics, hell Adventures in Space and Time had me in tears, the radio 4 adventures made me want to go and listen anything Big Finnish, The Fiveh(ish) Doctors, made me laugh, so all in all the anniversary made like this show a lot more then I did before. That being said, only 2.2 million people watched Adventures, opposed to the 10.8 that watched the Day, so you are right in the ned
To the 50th Spoiler Thread for my response to that Amanda! lol
that's the best part of the show! You are hit in season 1 with all these concepts and new ideas, then you get used to all the techy talk and BEM, the WHAM! It changes 180 degrees to add to the plot.
Also by New Year's we'll have had three Regenerations in one year, actually within the span of two months. I don't like change, honestly, it scares me. But Doctor Who has that good-exciting-scary kind of change.
I think they wanted to avoid another Dimensions In Time level disaster. Granted, regardless of what you guys think of Moffat or how he runs the show, I doubt anyone here has as little faith in him as to suggest that he could create something as bad as Dimensions In Time. It's on youtube, it's not a REAL Doctor Who special (its a crossover with another show I'm not familiar with, I might like it more if I was but idk) but its the most that fans could get at the time. The 50th could have done more to celebrate Classic Doctors but at least(SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!) ------- the Time Lord might come back. In the future we might refer to the past eight years as the "Last of the Time Lords" saga and when I think about it I like the things that their absence brought to the Doctor but to have them gone forever? Like if the show makes it to the 100th and the Doctor still talks about how he/she is the last of the Time Lords. If there's one thing I am walking away from the 50th with it's that.... and Capaldi's eyebrows.
(Also, RTD's not been seen much because his husband has a brain tumour and is basically dying. He's not done much TV work recently either, though he's got something new coming up, and moved back from LA to be with his husband.Besides, I think we had quite enough of an eight-year retrospective without a documentary on the origins of NuWho, don't you?)
"little nods to the past" and Peter Davison having to actually go out and do it himself is simply not a substitute for them actually appearing in the special.Compare your "random woman wearing a scarf" and "ooh, she was on a motorbike" and "eight seconds of it took place in the school from the first episode" to an hour of David Tennant 'allons-y'ing, and tell me seriously that they were all being celebrated equally.It was a NuWho party; invited back NuWho Doctors, revolved around the NuWho concept of the Time War, and tied up eight year continuity strands.Why use the word "Fiftieth" if you're just not going to bother celebrating anything pre-2005?We were told that the classic Doctors weren't invited back because the story came first - and the story turned out to be mostly flashing lights and bluster, with the Zygons all but disappearing in a puff of Rawlsianism.
I agree with Amanda and Bronze. Frankly, saying that the Peter Davison film was "farting about with a camcorder" is an insult to Davison. It was hilariously delightful and celebrated those who were not directly involved in the 50th Anniversary Special.
And Davison, C. Baker, and McCoy were all at the premiere. I think they were far from being ignored for this anniversary. And talking to them, they approved of the special.
Oh you're being a little unfair, jonathan, there were lots of little nods to the past of the show all through out; it opens with the black and white intro; they pass a sign for Tottermen's lane were the tardis was on the first episode; Clara's teaching at the school susan attended; she enter the tardis on a motorcicle like in the eight doctor movie; I saw her closing the tardis doors with a click as a nod to when the tardis could be summoned with a wisle; you have U.N.I.T; the zigons; the brigadier's daughter, cause obviously they couldn't get the brigadier, other wise you can be sure he would be in this; a character wearing a 4th doctor scarf; plenty of props from old stories in the archives; and if The Fiveish Doctors is to be believed, Peter, Colin and Sylvester were hiding under the tarps, so they are technically in it.
Besides it's not like this episode was the only thing done during the anniversary; you had several Big Finnish adventures playing on Radio 4; many countries had reruns (england had the peter cushing movies...); you had the Adventures in Space And Time special, which is a true product of love for the show; the Fiveish Doctors, which wasn't just Peter Davison mocking about with a camera, there was also a lot of love in it, and brings out the point that not once during the celebration did we see anything with RTD, which I for one would love to have seen, what were the difficulties he faced in bringing the show back and all that; and you had plenty of books, articles, exhibitions,etc, the classics were plenty honoured in the anniversary
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