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The Doctor Before Time Travel 11 Replies

Started by Katy of Katydom. Last reply by Sweet of the Wood Apr 6.

The Time of the Doctor *SPOILERS* 15 Replies

Started by Amanda Cathey. Last reply by Michael Grubbs Jan 3.


Started by Amanda Cathey Dec 13, 2013.

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Comment by Jonathon Dean on November 14, 2013 at 5:56am

As I said, the rumour that he was doing a minisode's been going around for ages.

I just hope that's not the extent of the classic series Doctors' involvement - McGann stuck awkwardly somewhere out of the way to serve as Hurt's backstory.

Comment by Scout on November 14, 2013 at 5:42am

Oh, gee, look! It's Paul McGann (and an oddly inserted headshot of Hurt from 1979.) 

Comment by Albert Lopez on November 14, 2013 at 5:22am

It' out. The Night Of The Doctor is up now.

Comment by Joey Ducante on November 13, 2013 at 6:16pm

9 days

Comment by Jonathon Dean on November 13, 2013 at 5:38pm

I may be in the minority, but I quite like it.

It achieves a number of things;

First off, it sets out do do what Cartmel intended from the start - it takes everything we think we know about the Doctor, and tells us that they're wrong. He's no longer a Time Lord (not really, anyway), Susan's not really his granddaughter, William Hartnell wasn't really the first Doctor, etc.
 It reveals a lot about the Time Lords, and the Doctors place within them, that's true, and a lot of people don't like it for this alone - but I would suggest that most of these people have misunderstood; it doesn't "give the Doctor a backstory", it elaborates on the one we already thought we had, and then tells us that it's wrong.

Second, it succeeds in separating out Time Lord culture from human. Too often, particularly in NuWho, Gallifreyans have been portrayed as basically just being exactly the same as humans, but wearing silly hats. This is just stupid on a number of levels - not least because the whole point of Time Lord culture was that it was designed explicitly to be a civilisation in which the Doctor absolutely does not fit. While the Looms were always portrayed as a tragic necessity (much like the creation of the Cybermen in Spare Parts), and part of the reason that Time Lord culture is so stale, it certainly separates out the two cultures quite spectacularly - human beings look at that kind of state manufacture of people (as seen in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, for example) as appalling, whereas the Time Lords see that kind of regulation and uniformity as ideal.

Finally, because it lets us include all and none of continuity simultaneously. Similar to the way that the Time War and the Cracks in Time both allow us to paper over things that don't quite make sense with the timeline in the Doctor Who universe - the "Other" backstory allows everything the Doctor has revealed about himself to be true in a sense, even (as Ned Flanders admirably put it) 'the stuff that contradicts the other stuff'; "can live forever" or "a Time Lord has 13 lives"? The Fourth Doctor is "something like 750 years" old, while the Third has "been a Doctor for thousands of years"? Some statements apply to the Doctor, others apply to the Other - job done.

Comment by Albert Lopez on November 13, 2013 at 5:10pm

Jonathon, I let's hear some thoughts on the Cartmel Masterplan, everyone.

Comment by Amanda Cathey on November 13, 2013 at 4:16pm

The beautiful words of Neil Gaiman's new eBook, Nothing 'O Clock. Based on the Doctor with Amy as his companion. I love what he says in the last 2 minutes of the video.

Comment by Amanda Cathey on November 13, 2013 at 3:38pm

Personally, I think the comics count as canon, so do the novel's. 

Comment by Albert Lopez on November 13, 2013 at 3:09pm

Well, I never know whether to count the comics as canon or not. There's some stuff I like and other stuff they reveal that I kind think should always be a mystery like the Doctor's Brother in the novels. The Expanded Universe is a mixed bag like that, for me at least.

Comment by Amanda Cathey on November 13, 2013 at 2:24pm

Bravo on your canon skills Albert!


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