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Comment by Steve Bullin on Sunday

(in conclusion, tldr)

sorry everyone:

I'm not saying it's bad to believe strongly about something, or even necessarily be militaristic in your believes, so long as your beliefs don't separate you from people and the potential friendships/discussions/experiences that make us grow as individuals and communities. Personally I'm militaristic against pessimism, ignorance, or giving up on dreams ^^. 

But really, once I stopped hating religion, I started to learn from it. I realized the vast number of people that support true love (regardless of gender) that still identify as religious and don't feel conflicted in that. I even got to have some great discussions with people who don't feel the same as I do about same-sex or love, I can't say I've changed their mind, but I do believe they've taken plenty from those discussions as I have; in the future I'll be better able to enter the discussion and possibly lend a perspective to the individuals who might not have previously thought of it that way. And I've been able to do this because instead of seeing these people as enemies, as polar opposites to myself, or as an logical obstacle to debate with, I saw them as friends and neighbors.

Sometimes we just can't get through to them though, and that's commonly more them not being ready to talk then it is us. In that case, like any potential fight, it's really just better to walk away. Your time can be better spent elsewhere.

That's why I the religion vs. same-sex relations isn't really a topic as it is a miss-communication to be analyzed and understood before it can be discussed. I think the relationship between religion and orientation will improve drastically within the next ten to twenty years because I think people are realizing the traditions of the old ways, in their aspects of exclusion/bias against people, is wrong. And as a society we're adapting what we have, despite the ignorant ramblings of the few. This is why I think hateful individuals and hate groups are becoming so much more prominent in the media, they're seeing this change that seems to go against their mindset and they're reacting strongly. Just listen to how pissed Rush Limbaugh gets when discussing the "state of the country", when things like this happen I know we're on the right track, and I'm only optimistic for the future. 

I think by the time I have kids and they're coming home from school they'll showing me the gay pride or trans gender pins that were handed out in class. ^^ 

Comment by Paul Hurst on Sunday

Religion consists of answers that can never be questioned, where science is questions that may never be answered. Any system that needs the assumption of a 24/7 celestial CCTV system to ensure compliance, that relies on fear and greed (same as the stock market) has to be faulty. In general, good people do good things, and bad people do bad things when left to themselves. Religion causes good people to do bad things.

Comment by Steve Bullin on Sunday

In my opinion, any time that someone decides they're going to be militantly against a manner of belief/lifestyle/choice then they themselves are surrendering the right to exist without having a diametrically opposed thinking individual hold a prejudice against them for their belief/lifestyle/choice.

Let me just state that I'm not saying orientation is at all a choice or lifestyle, it's the way you were born, how you express it could fall under the choice/lifestyle bit but that's not what I'm talking about. 

The act of being against religion, because of what a handful of noisy individuals that identify themselves as religious have done to you in the past is the same when the dog hates the newspaper after his owner hits him with it. The newspaper (religion) isn't designed to be a weapon, through the years and translation though it has been used and people have adapted it as such -not for the sake of their religion mind you- but for the sake of their own selfish and ignorant bias. Millions of people have used religion as a tool to find inner peace and become better people to their family  and neighbors, and generally just do good in the world without hating or discriminating against anyone. And the good they've done in their life for others and their community should not be considered null and void because a few nutjobs go around causing harm to others, while identifying as a similar "believer".

I believe to say you hate religion is ignorant of religion, focusing more on how people have used religion then the message of religion in and of itself. And I believe to hate the people who practice religion is again, ignorant of the situation. Any time you say 'insert group' is 'generalization' then you are being prejudice. This is why I hate when people say that political correctness is a negative thing, or an infringement on free speech. Political correctness is simply a mindfulness of what you are saying and not creating prejudice, not because you aren't allowed to say what you want, but because as a society we've come to the understanding that regardless of the exact material any statement that holds a prejudice is -in truth- a lie through omission. And harmful to our societies development.

The LOOONNG discussion I had with my parents about this was regarding Donald Trump's statement about minorities being a dead weight on the economy in America. I told them that the reason this is politically incorrect, and the reason being politically incorrect is wrong, is that Trump's statement is a lie. His statement implies that all minorities are dead weight and doing nothing for our economy, and the reason for the recession. All of which is blatantly racist and ignorant of reality. Yes there are people that are basically dead weight, but to attach the label of "ineffective" or "detrimental" to any group shows an ignorant prejudice towards that group and purveying that kind of thought into society is both detrimental in itself to the discussion of the real issues and morally wrong. 

Where I do hate when anyone, religious or not, discriminates against people for loving who they love I refrain from saying that I hate that person, the church or political group they've learnt that kind of thinking from; because anytime you decide to hate a group based on a experience, you take a militant stance.

Anytime you are a militant believer you have tricked yourself into thinking so strongly about something that you feel it has become a battle -where both sides have passed the point of discussion, compromise, or any productive actions- and it's these kinds of people that do make it into a battle. These militants that think the point of talking have passed that make certain discussions and topics such an unfriendly and negative environment to be in.

I think this is where the whole 'Never talk about sex, god, or politics.' came from.

Comment by Paul Hurst on Sunday

Disclaimer: personal experience as a child has left me very strongly anti-theist (and allergic to priests).

I think (in the U.K.) attitudes amongst the theists are coming more into line with the general population - the old-school book-thumpers still try to demand a right to impose their views on others, but are largely in retreat (with some notable exceptions). The courts have denied any right to discriminate against others based on sexuality and once same-sex marriage has been established, and the world does not come to an end, the 'swivel-eyed loons' will be heard of less and less (hopefully!). We should even get female bishops soon in the C of E, and that can only be an improvement.

Comment by Sebastian Elsker on Sunday

This may seem like I'll get one obvious answer but out of curiosity, what are people's stances on the relationship between religion and sexuality? Issues like gay marriage have brought the relationship between the LGBTQIA community and religious groups into the public eye. Personally I have known different LGBTQIA people who have both been strongly for and strongly against religion. Thoughts?

Comment by Sweet of the Wood on June 12, 2013 at 2:12pm

Good advice. I'll take that in mind. Thank you! I'll tell her on (U.K.) Thursday!

Comment by Danno on June 2, 2013 at 8:28pm

well, assuming you are pretty sure the idea of girls thinking other girls are awesome and adorable doesn't give her the willies, your best bet is seriously just to say it... or, if no amount of practicing can get you over your nerdy nervousness... you can go to Johns videos from the end of 2009 and find the point in which he declares nerdfighterlike on behalf of nerdfighters to their crushes and have her watch that clip.

Comment by Sweet of the Wood on June 1, 2013 at 12:30pm

Oh my gosh, I am SO glad someone decided to make a group like this! I'm a bisexual myself, and I fell in Nerdlike with my BFF. I tried to tell her, but ended up saying that I was obsessing over her exboyfriend. She laughed. Can anyone give some advice about how to tell her? I'm kind of desperate.

Comment by Jane Power on May 23, 2013 at 3:53am

https://www.allout.org/en/actions/kate?utm_source=platform&utm_... So this girl has been arrested for dating her girlfriend who is still in High School, even though there is only 3 years between them, and the only reason she has been arrested is due to her girlfriends parents homophobic nature, against the girlfriends wishes. Now she has been given a choice between getting put through court and jail time or the sex offenders register, so please sign this show your support for this poor young woman who is potentially going to have her life ruined completely by homophobia.

Comment by Reece Vandenhoek on May 16, 2013 at 12:46am

hey guys!

Im just coming out as a lesbian, i live in Sydney in Australia i was if anyone could give me some advice on how to tell my friends that im gay?

also im new to this website, so hi to all of you :)

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