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For those who love discussing the books that they've read (or refuse to read).

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Comment by Amanda Cathey on March 27, 2014 at 6:47pm

Well the model was chosen to match Margo's description, I kind of looked at her as a basic copy to build on. The readers will definitely want black hair and blue eyes, and some will probably be upset if they diverge from it. 

A friend recommended Elizabeth Gillies, which I could see. I wouldn't mind a no namer, especially since John is an executive producer he has some say in things. That and John Boone is directing, and I trust them both.

Comment by Ty on March 27, 2014 at 6:39pm

thanks,

and I KNOW only I'm kind of nervous just like i was for when they were talking about who would be Hazel. I hope its someone relatively unknown.

Do you think the original Hardcover model with influence who they choose? this always seems like a problem to me. you give readers a face and then they lose that bit of imagination

Comment by Amanda Cathey on March 27, 2014 at 6:33pm

Very well said Ty. 

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY RELEASE A MARGO!!!!!

Comment by Ty on March 27, 2014 at 6:27pm

I think what some people are lacking, not saying you by any means cause i don't know you lol, is that they don't read critically. yes in book stores i judge by the back of the cover and by stuff i know i will like but i also grab books i wouldn't usually grab or ones that just came out because not only do i have a teasingly diverse taste in books i also read everything critically so even when i was reading a seemingly endless book like Swans Way by Proust I still could enjoy it by reading it critically even though i probably wouldn't read it again you know. 

When you read critically you are able to 

a. look past the shit you don't like 

or 

b. kind of appreciate what it adds to

a positive outlook helps with that too haha

also YES AND NAT WOLF IS GOING TO BE Q!!

Comment by Amanda Cathey on March 27, 2014 at 6:21pm

Did you guys hear about PaperTowns being made into a movie?

Comment by Amanda Cathey on March 27, 2014 at 6:21pm

I see where you're coming from, I just find some of the more popular books 'everyone' seems to endorse have a main part of the book with the love triangles as a major part of the book. I just think they could make it more subtle. Yes, it does show human nature, and it can be used as character development in a major way, I'm just not feeling satisfied that it's being used beneficially. Maybe I'm just a picky reader :P

Comment by Ty on March 27, 2014 at 6:07pm

I think for as many 'Twilight' books there are books that you are describing, that focus on the bigger picture of things opposed to all romance all the time. Also I don't think they are selling out, sure they are writing for an audience and it can be frustrating when a great author who was under the radar comes out with a best seller that to you is a sell out book but we need to remember this is a business. I believe that 1/3 authors actually make a living only by writing books, maybe fewer, so if they write something that is like that I think we need to remember that they are the same author as before and it's not like they are just shitting out this book. they have worked on it and have put their hearts and souls into it, if you look at a book like the city of bones which has the Clary Jace and Simon triangle which i know bugs some people but books are saying something about human nature and books where there is a love triangle (as cheesy as it may seem at times) is highlighting an aspect of human weakness which can be interesting to look at along with the awesome fights, action, and sarcasm that happens.

Comment by Amanda Cathey on March 27, 2014 at 6:01pm

I would like to ask a question, do you think modern authors try to please the public too much with their writing? So far, most teen books have started featuring unnecessarily complicated love triangles, (Not trying to point anything out, but Twilight...) Which I don't find interesting at all. I'd like a story full of action and adventure, and yes romance too, but having a lot of the book devoted to explaining a character trying to choose between 2 interests on the side is just annoying. It's kind of like the author's selling out to get popular, majority interest. If I wanted something like that I'd watch a soap opera.  

Comment by Ty on March 27, 2014 at 5:27pm

Agreed. I think that people are hindering authors and readers because someone could have had a great idea for a book and it could have changed lives like so many books do and they didn't write it because they wee worried that people would think its just another book in a genre. I don't think that stories can be over saturated because everyone has a different point of view on them. I'm sure that people on here could have an endless discussion about 1984's influence on a book like Divergent and that would be interesting and super cool to be a part of but I find it more interesting to talk about the differences in two worlds that people have created and their meaning. Books speak to us no matter the genre and I think that saying something or even someone is limited inherently limits them. 

Comment by Amanda Cathey on March 27, 2014 at 5:16pm

If I may pop in my opinion, people with such a literal view of a book plot doesn't understand the book as a story, only as entertainment.  As an amateur writer myself, I understand how much an author puts themselves into a book, it's a story of them as much as their main character. Books can't be 'been there done that' because there is NO LIMIT to where an author can go with their stories and adding that limitation is just down right rude to a writer, it's like telling a child they can only use their imagination this or that far. Which is a problem I have with society, they put limits on us as children. No, I don't believe dystopian novels are over done. I personally prefer a different genre, but if it speaks to me I read it.

 

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