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The Purpose of Life
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This cropped up in another discussion about death down below, but I think it's worth addressing. The question at hand is "What's the purpose of life?" or perhaps more extremely, "Does life have a…Continue
Tags: significant, important, universe, philosophy, silly
Started this discussion. Last reply by boko Aug 5, 2011.
Do we owe anything to the dead ... ?
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I just watched John's last video, and something he said but didn't really talk about was "What, if anything, do we owe the dead?"I'm curious to know what everybody thinks about this because I, for…Continue
Tags: afterlife, existence, heaven, will, life
Started this discussion. Last reply by CD May 9, 2012.
The Accidental Guerrilla
Has anybody else read this book by David Kilcullen?Does anybody else like to read non-fiction books about counterinsurgency, or sociology in general?I think this book offers an extremely insightful…Continue
Started Nov 23, 2010
Is religion a force for good in the world?
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Excluding the existence of any supernatural powers, or any comment whatsoever on the fallacy or truth of religious belief, and based only what we have seen [i]as a direct result of religion in this…Continue
Tags: murder, charity, atrocity, generosity, bad
Started this discussion. Last reply by Vertigo_One [Ops Mod] Mar 2, 2012.
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Vertigo_One [Ops Mod] replied to Simon's discussion Is religion a force for good in the world?"True, but that doesn't change the fact that most people fail to see such a difference. Religion puts destructive ideas in place all the time, and once they've taken root, people cling to them.
I disagree. People have destructive ideas and…"
Abreo replied to Simon's discussion Do we owe anything to the dead ... ?"Even in death, the will of a person matters a great deal. Maybe not to you, but it did to them, before they died. Even if my beliefs are wrong, and there is nothing after this world for us, the will and wishes is amazingly important. It is that last…"
Rachael Kerr replied to Simon's discussion Do we owe anything to the dead ... ?"I have to disagree with your second point (about owing absolutely nothing to the dead). A society that does not recognize the respect they owe to the dead (in terms of knowledge gained, financial resources acquired) is a society that does not move…"
Wayne Dirac replied to Simon's discussion Do we owe anything to the dead ... ?"We owe them gratitude. I don't care how logical or calculated you are, or how reasonable you are, or what your beliefs are. If you don't have the humility to acknowledge the fact that you couldn't have gotten to wear you are today…"
Vertigo_One [Ops Mod] replied to Simon's discussion Do we owe anything to the dead ... ?"People that will come after us, the next generations. We need to remember that the world doesn't end with us, and so we need to live our lives with that in mind. Partially, this is about things like resources (consuming natural ones) but also…"
Jackson Frankfurt replied to Simon's discussion Do we owe anything to the dead ... ?"I watched that video and didn't understand what he meant be "and the not yet living"."
Vertigo_One [Ops Mod] replied to Simon's discussion Is religion a force for good in the world?"It started off with human sacrifices and went on to be the cause of wars, genocide, murder, sexism, slavery, homophobia, etc. etc.
There is a fundamental difference between religion being used and abused.
To this day, it is still a huge source of…"
Vertigo_One [Ops Mod] replied to Simon's discussion Is religion a force for good in the world?"Well, if we don't follow them, we're going to get punished. In this life, or the next. If he didn't desire to punish us, and didn't want; he'd not do so much of it. Or he'd not create people he knowingly…"
Tòmachan ~blogs admin ~ replied to Simon's discussion Is religion a force for good in the world?""My objection was to your use of the word "appease". They are there for us to know God's will, but to follow them is not to appease him. That implies that he really wants to punish us, and only by obeying him will you sate that…"
Vertigo_One [Ops Mod] replied to Simon's discussion Is religion a force for good in the world?"The ten commandments, if it isn't to appease, and to measure up to God's wants and standards, what are they for? A guide to morality? Who's morality, and why must we follow them? To appease god.
My objection was to…"
Tòmachan ~blogs admin ~ replied to Simon's discussion Is religion a force for good in the world?""Nowhere in the Bible will you see a command to do good to "appease" God"
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The ten commandments, if it isn't to appease, and to measure up to God's wants and standards, what…"
Vertigo_One [Ops Mod] replied to Simon's discussion Is religion a force for good in the world?"" Let's do this to appease - insert god/s here - "
Nowhere in the Bible will you see a command to do good to "appease" God.
" Let's do this because Jesus/whatever, said so. "
And there is something wrong…"
Tòmachan ~blogs admin ~ replied to Simon's discussion Is religion a force for good in the world?"" Let's do this to appease - insert god/s here - "Or:" Let's do this because Jesus/whatever, said so. "
If you're going to do good, then do good.Religion shouldn't even factor into it. "
Vertigo_One [Ops Mod] replied to Simon's discussion Is religion a force for good in the world?"What is the other motive?"
Kayla replied to Simon's discussion Is religion a force for good in the world?"I agree, religious groups do good, but they always have another motive for doing good, which to me, makes the good they do way less worthy."
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- Anglo-Australian.
Bit of a loner.
And I like V for Vendetta.
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The Three Musketeers
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- Headphones.
- If you could do your happy dance with anyone who would it be with?
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- December, 2008
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- At 5:43pm on December 18, 2010,
Lizabet-B said… I thought that the topic about religion that you posted was really, really, interesting. Religion is such a fascinating and complex subject that is so engrossing to talk about because there are so many perspectives. Good job!
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