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Dear, " Stop John Green. " You're doing it wrong.

Good day my dear Nerdians, Nerds and Nerdfighters! 

In this blog I'll be talking/typing about a wee thing that's popped up on the Tumblr. 

As this half wit tends to swear and curse, if said manner of writing makes you uncomfortable.

I'll do my best blank out the words, at which point you can insert whatever you want to assume that's being said.

But anywho!
Onto the blog!
~ Which will first contain quotes from the owner of said Tumblr ~
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 "first of all, the man is a known misogynist"

Yes my dear Neridans, apparently by calling his wife:
" The Yeti "
John Green is but being hateful towards woman, he despises them and all that they stand for.

Or..
If we use our head.
By not giving away his personal information, eg, his wife's name.
He's stopped her becoming the fixation of creepers and numptues on the youtube and interweb.

What we have here is a classic ad hominem, an attack without merit or evidence. 
First of all dear:
" Stop John Green. "
Provide the facts, or keep your libellous and defamatory nonsense to yourself. 

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"the only point he’s making is that women in his books are there to be coveted sexual objects for lonely nerd boys."


Alas, the author seems to be assuming that for boys:
Girl = sex object.

I'm sorry, did I lose part of my book?
Did someone come in and steal the part where all the girls are to be objects for a boys desire, then replaced it with emotion, compassion and love for a female characters? 

Really? 

It may come as a surprise for this person.
But boys do not only want sex. It's a natural part of our existence and the likes, but to ignore the companionship and the friendship John's characters have, and look at their relationship purely on a physical level is intellectually dishonest and foolish at best of times.
~~~



"He’s really dismissive of people of lower intelligence and thinks that he’s better than everyone because he can write pseudo-philosophical crap and treat women like S*** in all of his books (they’re all either fake characters, characterized like s***, or killed off). And his fans just suck his metaphorical c*** because they’re blind enough to think he’s a good person."


Ahh, once more we meet, my old friend o' ad hominem! Once more the author makes the claim, and neither backs up the point or provide evidence for this 'reasoning' - to suggest there was reason used in this blog's creation is taking it a step too far in my own opinion -. By all means, can someone quote me a line from John Green as to when he says down with the people who're lower in regards to intelligence!.. But till then, I'mma assume the author o' the blog has had one too many Mushrooms and strooms.


PS: On the point to characters being fake: 
The
Books
Are
Fictional!
Honestly, did this numpty think she was buying from the true story section?
Good lord.
On behalf of all Nerdfighteria.

~~~


"He’s such an ableist it makes me mad. Being smart doesn’t make you any better than anyone else, and neither does have a big vocabulary." 

Now hold the gun right here. Can anyone spot the word being used where it shouldn't? That's right Ableism. 
......
My
God. 

Not being smart, isn't a disability. 

It is not something that cannot be improved or changed.

~ Well, unless you're a lazy sod. ~
Can anyone point to where John Green said we should keep away from those 'mentally challenged disabled people'?
No?
One more,  ad hominem.

Though, the author did get one thing right.
Having a big vocabulary doesn't make you better than anyone else.

It also doesn't mean you know what those words means.

~~~ 

In regards to people who like John Green:

"They’re just as sad and pathetic as One Direction, or Justin Bieber fans. Entirely blinded by their obsession with some guy just because they don’t know any better than they can’t even recognize when there are things wrong with him.

Newsflash for you, Nerdfighters. John Green is sexist. If you would like some concrete evidence, don’t worry. It’ll come.

Read book by women. Stop allowing men like John Green to act like father figures to teenage girls. Stop listening to his advice. He has no place giving it. He is a sexist. He is a misogynist. He is an ableist who thinks that just because someone has smart, they are better than someone who isn’t. 

Recognize your privilege, John Green. You’re just a man. Hah"

Once more, the author throws around words like Sexist, Misogynist and ableist - I'm not even entirely sure that's a word >_> ~ and considers saying big words that sound bad, to count as evidence. No, my dear silly author.
It means you're intellectually dishonest, morally sickening and rather pathetic in the way you attack someone for everything and apparently anything.

Apparently, men aren't allowed to write for woman characters.
Apparently, being a man is a privilege.

And apparently, this author couldn't come up with evidence.
As the best she could do was suggest:
" Read book by women. "
Seriously?


Alas, trolls will be trolls. Fools will be fools.
And attention seekers will seek attention.
I think all of that sums up this author rather nicely.

 


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Comment by Malavi Sengupta on December 20, 2013 at 10:04am

Okay, from someone who knows far more about those words than she needs to:

1. You can't make a statement and say that the evidence will come. I'm a vampire, just you wait, the evidence will come!

2. There are plenty of female characters in his novels who are not sick, or dead or MPDG's: Lindsey, Lacey, Lara, Kaitlin...

3. Yes, being a man is a privilege, but John is someone who constantly acknowledges his privilege, and he's friends with lots of women writers, whose work he promotes. Also, why can't we read both men and women writers? It's not like one precludes the other.

4. a) Intellectual snobbery is not ableism! I mean, one does not have to be able-bodied to be intelligent. Just look at Stephen Hawking! (Or watch the movie with Benedict Cumberbatch.)

b) You cannot accuse John of either, because he wrote one entire book about a child prodigy coming to terms with the fact that he is not special, and then another entire book about how people with illnesses are not there to be Shining Beacons of Hope who are An Inspiration To Us All.

Comment by Beth on August 14, 2013 at 8:06am

Just because they disagree doesn't mean they're right.

We're not blinded, we understand.


And, coming from a 14 year old, He's really down-to-Earth and not full of himself unlike One Direction or Justin Beiber. He has family and nerdfighters first and keeps his 'fame' (I know he hates words like that) in perspective. If I ever have a child, they will be born full of awesome and a bookshelf of John Green novels.

If there was any role model for my future child to have, it would be John Green, The VlogBrothers and the never failing support of the Nerdfighters.


Thanks for supporting me in supporting John Green. Nothing but awesomeness and someday, puppy-sized elephants. I can dream...

Comment by Tamhas ~ Admin ~ on May 2, 2012 at 1:13pm

Oh, I know Ableism was a word. Ableist , not so much. 

And aye, out of context, to put extremely lightly.

Comment by Not Telling on May 2, 2012 at 1:04pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ableism

It turns out that ableism is a real word....to describe someone who discriminates against disabled people.

That was used completely out of context.

Comment by jan noriko lim on May 2, 2012 at 4:21am

you're awesome, he's aweome, but the guy who posted those things, well, mind my crude language, but he's just being a dick. also, side note: we dont fawn over him like the directioners or the beliebers. we respect john green. just as any human should respect one another.

Comment by Sarah I. on April 30, 2012 at 6:50pm

Thomas, people like you keep me on this site. :) 

Comment by Tamhas ~ Admin ~ on April 30, 2012 at 5:41pm

" I find it disturbing that this person's blog was hacked or taken over by someone who is "saving it to prevent further misuse." Tumblr states in their community guidelines: "the best response to hateful speech is not censorship but more speech." Other users' comments on that person's blog were  working- showing the  faults in his/her arguments. I honestly feel like the battle is now lost because somebody couldn't handle a dissenting opinion and chose to have it shut down."


Aye, in total and utter agreement on that point. Freedom of speech guards her right to continue as she sees fit. As much as I disagreed with her nonsense, and doubted she had any evidence to bring forth. To simply cut her tongue out - in a manner of speaking - will not solve anything. It'll more look like we - as in the community - are trying to hide something more than anything.


"the person never said anything about the Yeti being the reason for John Green being a misogynist."


I was mostly pulling at something which would have brought her to that conclusion. As in, I was trying to view her side of the coin, and lets face it, for most. Being called Yeti wouldn't be a pro in any argument.


"On another note, It's interesting that  there has been something of a white supremacist on the ning chat recently, and nothing has been done to stop this person's hateful bigotry. Apparently it's okay for someone here to say Hitler was a decent person and that they wished they owned slaves- but out of the question for some loony to express their dislike for someone on an entirely different website."


He has been dealt with each time privately by myself anytime he's ranted on, and was just recently removed from the community in accordance to the ToS. As it were however. I assume our site wasn't responsible for the removal of that certain persons blog.  If so, for shame.

Comment by Sarah I. on April 30, 2012 at 3:57pm

Unfortunately, we will never get to see this person's response- or the evidence they promised was coming. Who knows? They may have continued to provide absolutely nothing to back up their statements- which, I agree, were awful and tasteless. However, I find it disturbing that this person's blog was hacked or taken over by someone who is "saving it to prevent further misuse." Tumblr states in their community guidelines: "the best response to hateful speech is not censorship but more speech." Other users' comments on that person's blog were  working- showing the  faults in his/her arguments. I honestly feel like the battle is now lost because somebody couldn't handle a dissenting opinion and chose to have it shut down.

Also, the person never said anything about the Yeti being the reason for John Green being a misogynist. That is something you assumed. Unless, it was actually there- of course, I have no way of re-checking because somebody shut it down, but I'm 98% sure the "yeti" thing was never mentioned. 

On another note, It's interesting that  there has been something of a white supremacist on the ning chat recently, and nothing has been done to stop this person's hateful bigotry. Apparently it's okay for someone here to say Hitler was a decent person and that they wished they owned slaves- but out of the question for some loony to express their dislike for someone on an entirely different website. 

Comment by David Who? on April 30, 2012 at 2:46pm

Thank you.

Comment by Rebecca Steel on April 30, 2012 at 7:30am

It's really refreshing to see someone respond so rationally to such a biased post, instead of an emotional response and simply bashing the person who posted this. Nice post!

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