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What by hell have you become? Ever week or so, a new story pops up detailing yet another attack on a women, on someone you dislike, someone who beats you and god forbid, a creator whose game you happened to dislike. The community, as wide and varied as it is, is becoming one giant, disgusting mess. Between clear and vivid sexism, to outright hatred for others, it begs the question what will be imprinted on those who you know and live beside in the real world.

I'm not a saint, of course. Lords know, nothing says anger like no kills and over a ba-million deaths on screen. You get annoyed, angry and super irritated. Oh first world anger, if only you weren't such a self absorbed cuif/fool. It's this culture of anger and hatred that has spawned this breed of gamer. Perhaps small in number, but good lords is it vocal. It brings about results, and makes the whole community look bad. It provides those with an agenda against the media to attack and infringe upon their rights to sell and buy the product. 

Why has it come to this point though? What drove the nail into these rather angry and senseless twits? Well, a few things to be exact, at least in my own mind. 

  • Anger!
    You may insert your: " No shizzle Sherlock " here . But hear my little Nerdy self out for a moment. We've agreed anger is a factor in this, yes? Good, well. What drives them to lash out at people? Simple, projection! Ad hominem to deflect from their obvious, and often times, grisly failure. Attacking lassies with threats of rape, just because they pwned your noob ass is pathetic. And for anyone who takes too much time thinking about your motivations - cough me cough - it is plainly obvious. Could you try to appear more pathetic than that?
  • Culture milkshake!
    By culture, I don't mean east vs west. Or north vs south. Oh lords no, something much more complex is nature. Nerds and Jocks combining! I don't mean your run of the mill Rugby player, or that lad who enjoys sports. Oh no! Oh lords no, I mean the cliché  ridden asshat who riddled many'a eighties film. You know him well, and you despise and can't wait to see his failure on the screen. Y'see, the by product of these new, awesome games and their overly violent content attracts both the subtle nerd to the raging fool alike! So, you have a rather quiet lad and a rather giant jerk in one room, mingling, what happens? Tiny, spineless jerks! I know, I'm generalising far too much I suppose, but it sure does make a far more interesting birthing story than the stock bird, ya gott'a admit. Alien got nothing on me!
  • Just overall jerks sexism!
    As sad as it is, there is going to be jerks no matter where you go. Alas, woe unto the world and all that shizzle. There're everywhere, school, work, college and yada and yada. Lassies will for a long time I'm afraid, become the target of these spineless cowards. The best that can happen at this point, just don't be an awful person, then you've done your part.

I don't believe there is much of a cure, or at least, not a quick remedy. Now, we could try and tone down the games, make them less appealing to jerks in some ways and others. But that allows them to win, the majority should suffer because a select few? Me t'inks not! No, at best, you have to take this part of the vile community and ignore it like plague ridden Europe ignored the black rat. I say it's called the black death for a reason! -said grampa Simpson.. -

No, what we need to do is blanket ignore them, be a generally good person in all things we do, and avoid these fools whenever possible. If someone puts you down in life, do you allow them to linger? No, you cut them off. Much like a bad limb. If you're able to detach your hand because of physical benefits, then cutting off from trolls for emotional benefit, not a bad idea. 

Thoughts? I'd like to hear them.
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Comment by Tamhas ~ Admin ~ on August 23, 2013 at 4:37pm

What are you referring to, Tam? The Jen Hepler case with Bioware or Anita Sarkissian? I'd love to talk about this, but I have no idea what we're talking about.

I was mostly talking in general, but you raise a couple interesting people in the midst of this nonsense storm. Aye, the Jan Helper issue really boiled my blood. Gamers demand a better experience, better writing and better game play. But the moment they get something which they dislike, don't understand or simply aren't interested in, a small amount of the community becomes a rabbis infected dog. How on earth can they expect better writers, producers or designers to get involved in the industry if they chew and spit out people so metaphorically violent?

As for Anita, well. I'm not so much a fan of her work. I see sexism in almost every media format. From movies, to music and of course gaming. Of course there is sexism in the industry and so forth. But she isn't really doing much other than pointing out already glaring faults or problems facing society in a creative perspective. I suppose marking would be a big factor, it's hard to tell how many lassies will be/like a gaming type. Get that wrong, you lose money. They have a loyal base of lads, so it's normal they're going to pander to them. 

Though like I said, I find it a problem in every industry. No one can write a women character without making her.. well, a woman. A woman who has problems, a woman sense of humour and a woman complex. Don't get me wrong, the fact that a character is in fact a lassie is important, but only so much that effects her story and so on. I don't like male characters because of the bravado, nor the over-the-top action. It's personally, motives and such that catches my intention, get that right and I'm hooked. Writers however, can't seem to understand it's the same story for lassies. 

Comment by Tamhas ~ Admin ~ on August 23, 2013 at 4:28pm

This is simply because the brain processes violence the same way regardless of the medium in which it is presented.

Don't get me wrong Adam, I believe there ought to be limits on what can and will be shown, created and so forth. That's the norm I'd imagine. But I see very little difference in say, watching a film in which someone goes around shooting people with a flimsy plot/reason, in comparison to a game. If people are going to get their knickers in a twist over the media form, then they ought to be balanced and attempt to censor the other formats. Otherwise, it looks obvious that there is other motives behind their anger and so on.

This list is in no way conclusive, but it is a long way from any of those acts to sitting on top of a bell tower with semi-automatic rifle.

Shh, better dun' let d'hem Fox News hear that reasoning, you'll be labelled a murder lurving commie by the end of the week! 

The system works quite well given the design of the game

I think that would be your main problem, most companies and so on don't really work in the same mould, so the industry would really need to up and change for this to work. 

Comment by Alex Yeghiazarian on August 22, 2013 at 6:33pm

What are you referring to, Tam? The Jen Hepler case with Bioware or Anita Sarkissian? I'd love to talk about this, but I have no idea what we're talking about.

Comment by Adam Sellars on August 22, 2013 at 8:52am

There is a bias in the news towards entertainment and the story that "video games encourage violent behavior"...

For the sake of balance I feel I should mention that there is actually a plethora of evidence that exposure to violent media does actually temporarily increase aggression. There are however two major points that need to be made with this statement.

1) Violent media: This includes every type of media so far tested such as games, film and tv, cartoons, comics, books and music. I am unaware of any research done into how violence in interpretative dance affects aggression levels, but I don't think it looks good. This is simply because the brain processes violence the same way regardless of the medium in which it is presented.

2) Aggression: None of the many research papers published can actually link acts of physical violence to any violent media. Increased aggression tends to present itself in subtler ways such as a reduction in sympathy and empathy (i.e. reduced charitable donations), being more likely to voice your ideas and beliefs and being less likely to unquestioningly follow direction. This list is in no way conclusive, but it is a long way from any of those acts to sitting on top of a bell tower with semi-automatic rifle.

Unless there was a way in which to project users from troll bombing the profiles, I'd imagine this would become a sure cut way for finding yourself with a poor rating just to give another ratbag user some lawls.


The system works quite well given the design of the game. You can only vote one point per person per match you play with or against them. As matches are random it is unlikely that you could play with the same person often enough that they could cause any serious damage to your scores. 

 

Comment by Tamhas ~ Admin ~ on August 21, 2013 at 6:45pm

James: ~~  I think this is a case of sensationalism and reporting bias.

Me: ~~ Perhaps small in number, but good lords is it vocal


Again, of course it's a small group in comparison with the millions, perhaps even billions of gamers. To assume and accuses the whole gaming community of such a stupid move, would be idiotic. It's a select vew amongst many that's spoiling the broth for the rest. And of course it's sensationalism, bad news sells, good news? Not so much. 

There is a bias in the news towards entertainment and the story that "video games encourage violent behavior" is more entertaining than the story that "video games are just another hobby." 

To state that video games or the media helps or encourages people to follow similar paths as say, violent characters is mad. Take the Batman shooting for example. People want to blame and label that franchise with fault because one madman went mental. But if we're going to seriously look at the media, we then need to look at the millions who watched the film, then did no such thing. The accusation against video games or entrainment in general falls flat on its face. Mind you, don't tell the Australian government that, those numpties are too happy banning and censoring games over there. 

  

 I expect the vocal minority of angry gamers to become increasingly less tolerated as mute and ignore options increase.

You'd expect that, but for some reason, people seem to lack quite a bit of sense these days. 

Comment by Tamhas ~ Admin ~ on August 21, 2013 at 6:36pm

Adam: ~~"There is definitely a vocal minority"

Me: ~~ Perhaps small in number, but good lords is it vocal


Of course, I wouldn't imagine this type of behaviour to be held by the majority of the community, good godless gods, not a chance of that. It's the small group of asshats that catch the attention. After all, if you watch the news, you'll sooner see a story fly about someone being robbed, rather than some young lad or lass helping some old folk across the road. 

anonymity

I didn't mention that based on my own idea that this isn't so much a major factor in encouraging this behaviour, but rather an after effect bonus of the digital era. People will be jerks, no matter where they are or who can see, it's how you spot them. What has happened however now, is that with the enviroment based off of the anonymity, the spineless jerks can launch their attacks. Even then, I'd say this cowardly bunch are a sub-group among this lot of hateful sods. 

Personally I feel this system should be brought in to all online games since not only does it help deter problem gamers it also gives you a warm fuzzy feeling when all three of your party members give you points for being a good guy

Unless there was a way in which to project users from troll bombing the profiles, I'd imagine this would become a sure cut way for finding yourself with a poor rating just to give another ratbag user some lawls. It'd be braw if such a system could be implemented, but can you imagine the modding team you would need for that to work? Jesus. 

I just felt the need to put in a word for all of us not bat crap crazy gamers who not only have to put up with a minority of self righteous, ineloquent, childish narcissists, but also get tarred with the same brush as them

Oh don't worry, like I said, the whole, wide community of gamers aren't at fault themselves, but rather that small, but vocal group claim that prize. I'm a gamer myself, so I'd be shooting myself in the foot if I said otherwise. 

Comment by James Michael DeMaio on August 21, 2013 at 4:27pm

I think this is a case of sensationalism and reporting bias. I have a lot of friends that are avid video gamers and I myself consider myself a gamer of both video and table top varieties. Most of my friends do none of the things that you accuse gamers of doing. But that's anecdoatal. What is important is the stories that are being told. There is a bias in the news towards entertainment and the story that "video games encourage violent behavior" is more entertaining than the story that "video games are just another hobby." 

It is a new medium and as such it is going through the normal growing pains of a new medium, a key part of which is being chastised by older mediums. Anyway, I think just like youtube comments have become increasingly more humane, I expect the vocal minority of angry gamers to become increasingly less tolerated as mute and ignore options increase.

Here's an episode of an extremely thoughtful show about stereotyping gamers and some of the problems with it: 

Comment by Adam Sellars on August 21, 2013 at 1:39pm

I would have to disagree with you on several points. The majority of gamers I have met and spoken with in game actually decent, if competitive, people. Well that or they can't be bothered to type their rage. There is definitely a vocal minority (though not as minor as I would like.) Having had a major part in running a few guilds overt the years I have found that many gamers shy away from the social aspects of the game because of early experiences of ass-hattery and so their voices are not heard.

Also I think you have missed one of the major causes of the issue as well, anonymity. Not only are you free from any real reprisal (especially seeing as so few gamers use the "report ass-hat" button), but it is easy to forget that you are playing with and against other people. It's the same as sitting in a pub and bad mouthing bankers, but honestly would you go to their office and say the same things?

Finally some games, such as League of Legends, let you grade players on things like friendliness, being a team player as well as getting a skill rank. This allows you to avoid players who are generally unlikable and  increases the odds of moderators taking action against them. Personally I feel this system should be brought in to all online games since not only does it help deter problem gamers it also gives you a warm fuzzy feeling when all three of your party members give you points for being a good guy.

Having said all that I am not going to deny there is a problem, really I just felt the need to put in a word for all of us not bat crap crazy gamers who not only have to put up with a minority of self righteous, ineloquent, childish narcissists, but also get tarred with the same brush as them.   

Comment by Conor Tiffin on August 21, 2013 at 4:08am

I completely agree there! A large majority of gamers are rage filled/trolling children from my experience. Excellently said buddy!

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