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Yet another shooting, yet another lesson unlearned.

If I hear one fool, one idiotic, moronic asshat suggest that having guns in feckin' classrooms or schools would have prevented and protected lives on this dreadful and awful day in Connecticut, I may just slap the living crap out of said cuif. Oh don't politicize this they'll scream. Don't take blame away from the gunman they'll chime. Feckin' excuses! How many more must suffer before action is taken to protect your own people, America? But it's in the constitution! Oh, really? Are you a well trained militia, ready to fight some Indians or red coats are you? What's that? No? That's what I thought, read your own god damned  historical documents before you dare try using them to defend such pathetic and selfish arguments. 

It hasn't even been a bloody year since I last wrote on a shooting in America. This one perhaps even more senseless than the last. Of course, every shooting is that, senseless. You must be in a state of proper and utter madness - or lack many'a cog -, to willingly inflict such hell on other Human beings. Never mind other Humans, goddamned children! My thoughts - and would-be prayers - go out to each and every single one of those involved and harmed in some way or another. There is no way to express the loss of a loved one when they're taken in such a manner. No words fit the moment, no way too offer conclusion to the worst of the worst moments in any life that must endure such pain. Remembrance is all that can be offered, given and received at this point. I'd ask all to do simply that. Remember this awful feeling, don't allow it to slink away in some clevis of your mind. One of the only ways we can actively fight these awful moments, and prevent them; is if we actively remember the hell which we must endure, wouldn't you agree? 

With that said. Can anyone truly argue against tighter gun laws? Forget this incident for just one moment, thousands upon thousands are shoot and killed unlawfully each year. We don't hear about that so much, because it's just little bits and bobs of the ugly picture which is gun crime. It takes such lose of this magnitude to have people stop and think for the slightest, clip of a second. You either actively make an effort to prevent such hell being unleashed upon your land this time, or it'll continue on and on and on. Is that fair towards the victims? They're death's are meaningless, they're carved into a statement by an ugly, inhuman monster. They were abused and used in their last moments in their life. Why allow the chance that'll happen again?  

On behalf of the sites staff, our thoughts and hearts go out to the victims and their loved ones. There is no other gesture which can be offered. Time - in my own opinion -, isn't a healer. It's a female dog. But of course, I'm personally a cynic at heart. However, time alone - and the support in due time - will help those in need at the point whence they request it. 

If you feel like leaving a comment, feel more than welcome.

If you feel like challenging my points within this article, keep it civil and respectful and I'll be there in order to respond acutely.

With that said, there's just one last thing to say:

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Comment by matylda-mai mccormack-sharp on December 18, 2012 at 6:30pm

i've recently moved to America from the UK and i just can't get my head around why a lot of Americans seem to think that having guns is actually a good thing. how many guns were used to protect people in the last year? how many guns were used to kill people in the last year? since moving here, there has been about 5 major shootings. thats in the last 5 months. thats one shooting per month. i just don't understand, and it makes me so distressed because i don't feel safe when i walk the streets because i know that any one around me could have a gun and anything could go wrong. i may be slightly paranoid, yes, but who wouldn't be? and the argument that "guns dont kill people, people kill people" is just idiotic. yes, people kill people, but guns give them the chance to do it quickly, easily, more effectively, and from a greater difference. They are weapons. thats all they are. they were built to kill and thats what they do. they give people the unnatural power of deciding whether someone lives or dies. 

ugh.

dftba 

Comment by Betty_Loves_Turtles on December 16, 2012 at 11:21am




And it's stuff like that, which makes me cynical. For what is life if not gigantic and utter bitch for putting someone through that sort of hell?

Hey now, don't think like that about me. I'm incredibly lucky. I ought to be low functioning, but I'm like supposedly a genius or something, according to the doctor, anyway, and able to compensate. Who I feel bad for is my aunt. She's supposed to be higher functioning, but she has a mild intellectual disability, and is effectively lower functioning than me.  She also has depression, and audio sensory issues that mean she hears <1/3 of what we say. So she's constantly upset, worried and feeling bad abpout herself but can't process enough of our reassurances to feel better, or learn enough to do something successfully and improve her self esteem. That must really be hell. What can I complain about? My joints hurt? Dad's busy and I have to wait to know what emotion I have? I forgot how to talk or integrate my vision again, and get to spend the rest of the day reteaching myself instead of my usual duties? I may not know what happy *is*, but at least I feel it.

I've heard bits and pieces. Though, I can't imagine that'd ever happen. Far too costly and whatnot. Even if it was dictated on the federal level, I could see the red states declining to implement such a overspending policy. Far more likely that gun regulations would be implemented before such overbearing mental policies would be made able. 

What scared me was people on republican shows arguing for bringing back instituionalization, expanding the ability of doctors, family, cops, and the even the general pupblic to forcibly commit someone for longer periods of time, and forced monitoring of those on meds, with forced institutionalization of those likely to skip them, or caught skipping them. When I was little, I lived with my mom. I was misdiagnosed bipolar, and built up to being on 12 very strong meds at one time. If I hadn't stopped taking them, I'd probably be dead. Stoping taking them was what finally allowed me to relearn to speak enough to tell a judge what else she'd done to me, and ask to live with my father. While it's never been officially diagnosed by a licensed mental health worker, so I don't list it, my father has a few psychology degrees and thinks I have ptsd from it all. So to hear the ones I thought would appose it (it's health care. *forced* health care. Come on, at least pretend to be consistant) eagerly support it scared me a lot.

Comment by Lothian Tam ~ Admin ~ on December 16, 2012 at 8:20am

Autistic, issues with the flow of spinal fluid through the base of my skull causing neurological issues, alexithymia, arthritis, and messed up SI joints, myself.

And it's stuff like that, which makes me cynical. For what is life if not gigantic and utter bitch for putting someone through that sort of hell?  

On a semi-related note, did you see/hear all the shit some people were saying about forcingly treating/medicating anyone who seems odd, asocial or different?

I've heard bits and pieces. Though, I can't imagine that'd ever happen. Far too costly and whatnot. Even if it was dictated on the federal level, I could see the red states declining to implement such a overspending policy.  Far more likely that gun regulations would be implemented before such overbearing mental policies would be made able. 

Do you think they'll have any more success with that than the guns, cause that scares me even more.

Nah, there would be no real way of sustaining such an act. Where would they get the money to make such a thing possible? Perhaps it would run for a year or two, but other than that, I can't imagine it would be a wide sweeping piece of legislation. Regulating gun's would be far more easy - and cost effective - in the long run. So I wouldn't worry about that. 

At least you're ok with hunting, a lot of people I talk to can't understand how much you give up getting assistance, and tell me I ought to go get on disability and foodstamps and go to a store like a good, obediant poor person, and stop trying to support myself and do what I'm told. Some are down right nasty about it. Thank you.

I know what you mean, and to an extent I agree with you. Yes, help should be provided, but it should be actual help. Medicating someone for the sake of medicating because they're different or you find them difficult isn't fair on those people. If you can find a lifestyle that works for you and your own health problems, then all the best to you. It's braw that you could manage to do just that. I can't for the life of me understand why people would want someone to be on food stamps to begin with. Ahh well, people are idiots. Ignore them and enjoy your life, really all there is to it. 

Comment by Lothian Tam ~ Admin ~ on December 16, 2012 at 7:55am

The only thing I can think of is that it is ten days until Christmas...all I can think about is all the Christmas shopping those parents had already done. What does one do after something like that--especially if they have other children. I don't understand humans sometimes...I really don't.

It's the first thing I thought as well. This close to the holidays, just to be stolen away in the worst way imaginable. Lords and lairds can only conceive of the way to consoling someone who'll be in such emotional agony. 

My heart and thoughts go out to everyone affected by it, may they find some healing after this.

Amen to that.

Comment by Betty_Loves_Turtles on December 16, 2012 at 2:18am

"Here myself, I'm Autistic, Epileptic, Bi-polar with a touch of ADHD on top. I'm color blind and I've a case of hypermobility that makes my legs feel like they're quite literally at times, as if they're being torn asunder and flung to the side."

Autistic, issues with the flow of spinal fluid through the base of my skull causing neurological issues, alexithymia, arthritis, and messed up SI joints, myself. On a semi-related note, did you see/hear all the shit some people were saying about forcingly treating/medicating anyone who seems odd, asocial or different? Do you think they'll have any more success with that than the guns, cause that scares me even more.

My own, personal belief is that unless the equipment is meant for hunting, fulfilling a needed purpose, then I've no problem with guns. It's these 'over the counter', lax rules that is putting lives in danger. Those who hunt for a living, they need that to make said living. Can't at all blame them for doing just that.

At least you're ok with hunting, a lot of people I talk to can't understand how much you give up getting assistance, and tell me I ought to go get on disability and foodstamps and go to a store like a good, obediant poor person, and stop trying to support myself and do what I'm told. Some are down right nasty about it. Thank you.

Comment by Kaila on December 15, 2012 at 9:03pm

I think you've expressed what a lot of us feel...this whole incident is disgusting, it is sad and makes me angry and confused. Senseless, the shooter was obviously  mentally deranged--seriously f'd up. The only thing I can think of is that it is ten days until Christmas...all I can think about is all the Christmas shopping those parents had already done. What does one do after something like that--especially if they have other children. I don't understand humans sometimes...I really don't.

My heart and thoughts go out to everyone affected by it, may they find some healing after this. 

Comment by Lothian Tam ~ Admin ~ on December 15, 2012 at 6:26pm

When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.

Yes, because every 'outlaw' has connections to gun smugglers. Those crafty criminals, who'd d'know they were all so interconnected. 

Its not the fault of the gun

A gun is but a tool. Yes, the man pulled the trigger, yes he shoot those people. But take away the tool, what are you left with? A whole lot of nothing. 

Hammers can be used to kill just like a gun can.

Are you really, rationally trying to compare and state that a rogue with a hammer can cause the same extent of harm with a hammer, as like he with say, a semiautomatic weapon? That's assumption is so illogical, fallacies use that to mock other fallacies. 

 Also this shooter did not get the guns legally

Perhaps that may be the case with this incident, but as I've provided gathered evidence that the majority of mass shootings are committed with legally attained weapons: your point is moot. 

I myself am a gun owner and Im not a crazy person who would shoot up anyone (unless to protect my life or the lives of the people I love)

Good for yourself, but does that mean others should be at risk simply because 'you're not one of 'em crazies'?

 So whats wrong with the average citizen having the right to defend themselves?

More guns = more death. It's really that simple. Rather black and white, the issue is. 

The police respond, they arent there when you need them most. Israel tried the method of having more armed gov't employs in public ( military and police) and they saw no noticable decrease in terrorist attacks. Then they allowed their citizens to carry concealed weapons and they did see a drop in terrorist attacks

As we have two Israeli citizens on our staff, I'm far more inclined to listen to them speak in regards to their national affairs. And what'd ya know, they agree with me. Though by all means, provide some evidence, link me to a source to where upon you found this facts. 

If you dont live in the US dont call for our rights to be taken away. You have no say in what we do with our laws. In short I have only five words for you "From my cold dead hands"

Yes, because I'm screaming ' take their rights away, take them away I say! '. Please, if you're going to place words or assumptions in my mouth, at least make them sound reasonable. What needs to be put in place is tighter regulations, not absolute and utterly ' no guns' . As for that ' cold dead hands ' nonsense, way to score on the melodramatic score board. 

Comment by Lothian Tam ~ Admin ~ on December 15, 2012 at 6:10pm

All of us are significantly disabled in a way that prevents us from working a conventional job, except one, who works part time to cover our taxes and bills.

Here myself, I'm Autistic, Epileptic, Bi-polar with a touch of ADHD on top. I'm color blind and I've a case of hypermobility that makes my legs feel like they're quite literally at times, as if they're being torn asunder and flung to the side. 

"We grow, raise, make, and yes hunt everything we need ourselves. At my functioning level, if I were not part of and sheilded by this community, I'd lose my self determination and be forced into a home, where I  would be forcibly medicated so that they could force me to do things that literally hurt me without me being able to complain."

My own, personal belief is that unless the equipment is meant for hunting, fulfilling a needed purpose, then I've no problem with guns. It's these 'over the counter', lax rules that is putting lives in danger. Those who hunt for a living, they need that to make said living. Can't at all blame them for doing just that.

I am in favor of doing something, but I'm also scared shitless. Maybe I'm selfish, heartless ass, but I can't help but think that me dying isn't going to bring back those kids.

Again, I can't fault you for that. Yes, something needs done. But jumping the gun - pardon the word play - and banning all guns will not happen. There's too much support for the second amendment for that to happen. But there needs to be tighter regulations.

Comment by Lothian Tam ~ Admin ~ on December 15, 2012 at 6:10pm

"we're not different in that retard"

A rather embarrassing typo on my part. That was supposed to be " We're not different in that regard. " Not, retard. Sorry about that Olof in case ya thought I was insulting you there. 

Comment by Nate Pendergraft on December 15, 2012 at 3:58pm

When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. Its not the fault of the gun, its the fault of the man behind it. A gun alone does not hurt anyone, much like a hammer or other such tool does not hurt anyone one its own. Hammers can be used to kill just like a gun can. Also this shooter did not get the guns legally, he shot and killed his mother with her own gun then took them to the school. I myself am a gun owner and Im not a crazy person who would shoot up anyone (unless to protect my life or the lives of the people I love). I plan on getting a Concealed Carry Weapon and permit when I turn 21. In the cities of Chicago and DC gun crime went up after the bans they put in place. So whats wrong with the average citizen having the right to defend themselves? The police respond, they arent there when you need them most. Israel tried the method of having more armed gov't employs in public ( military and police) and they saw no noticable decrease in terrorist attacks. Then they allowed their citizens to carry concealed weapons and they did see a drop in terrorist attacks. If you dont live in the US dont call for our rights to be taken away. You have no say in what we do with our laws. In short I have only five words for you "From my cold dead hands"

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